The real McCoy or is it

[esn]

changing the angle of the subject slightly, I think that what appears to be a question mark might in fact be a circle - and one that has distracted Eko. I guess its a return to base and wait for more clues really. I reckon that Charlie - the third lostie with real faith and a strong link to Eko and Locke in terms of the plane and dreams might get dragged in - the final piece of the jigsaw has it were to help them get to the real ?

[Hordriss]

Originally Posted by esn,September 07, 2006 09:55 pm

changing the angle of the subject slightly, I think that what appears to be a question mark might in fact be a circle - and one that has distracted Eko. I guess its a return to base and wait for more clues really. I reckon that Charlie - the third lostie with real faith and a strong link to Eko and Locke in terms of the plane and dreams might get dragged in - the final piece of the jigsaw has it were to help them get to the real ?

I suspect it is actually a question mark, if only because it suits the wierd sense of irony in this show that an apparently uncharted section of a map should, upon close inpection, in fact turn out to be charted and actually to have a ruddy great question mark carved into the grass.

I can certainly see Charlie being roped into button-duty if Eko is serious in his intention of taking over Locke's "post", though I would much rather he sticks to what he's best at (i.e. Making occasional witty remarks to defuse tense situations, like the good little court jester he was before he became a zealot and a mugger...).

[St. Anger]

Originally Posted by St. Anger (o'_'o),September 07, 2006 09:28 pm

Very interesting stuff there man!

Not necessarily randomly. Perhaps acting on its own initiative. We cannot even overlook the possibility of a "collective intelligence" composed of the spirits the of unfortunates who've bitten the dust on the island and whose voices may be audible (or at least decipherable) in the whispers. The almost certain use of some manner of Feng Shui by DHARMA when laying out their bases (in accordance with the Bagua, if the UV map is any authority) raises some possible supernatural issues, to quote Wikipedia...

Dude, there was a link ages ago to a site that had transcripts of all the whispers, along with audio too!!

It was so friggin weird.

Was on that site which has all LOST related stuff.

Like when Shannon was looking for Vincent with Sayid, the whispers were saying "relax, she likes the guy........".

When Henry was locked up, the whisper were saying "don't tell them anything Henry......" etc etc, whether Henry could hear them is another question.

Hope this confuses you more lol

[Nickeshi]

Originally Posted by Hordriss,September 06, 2006 08:12 pm

Incidentally, can anyone remember which flashback characters were smokers? I'm sure that cigarette wasn't left there for nothing...

The ones that i can remember are jack's dad and the marshal. And sawyer does as well.

[R]

Originally Posted by Hordriss,September 08, 2006 11:00 pm

I suspect it is actually a question mark, if only because it suits the wierd sense of irony in this show that an apparently uncharted section of a map should, upon close inpection, in fact turn out to be charted and actually to have a ruddy great question mark carved into the grass.

I can certainly see Charlie being roped into button-duty if Eko is serious in his intention of taking over Locke's "post", though I would much rather he sticks to what he's best at (i.e. Making occasional witty remarks to defuse tense situations, like the good little court jester he was before he became a zealot and a mugger...).

I said this in another thread and agree with esn on this one. It doesnt look like a question mark but a circle imo..also if we look at the blast door map, we can see that the Pearl hatch is presumed to be located on the outskirts..to the right of the Swan, therefore unless the author is wrong, how can the pearl be the question mark? Also didnt Eko say that Locke's map was inexact..did they wonder of trail?



Also..if we look at a question mark..it alludes to it being something mysterious. The Pearl, interesting as it is, isnt that mysterious imo..

I think the they havent yet arrived at the Question mark. Perhaps thats next in the chain of events?

[Nickeshi]

Originally Posted by KoRevo,September 09, 2006 02:50 pm

I said this in another thread and agree with esn on this one. It doesnt look like a question mark but a circle imo..also if we look at the blast door map, we can see that the Pearl hatch is presumed to be located on the outskirts..to the right of the Swan, therefore unless the author is wrong, how can the pearl be the question mark? Also didnt Eko say that Locke's map was inexact..did they wonder of trail?



Also..if we look at a question mark..it alludes to it being something mysterious. The Pearl, interesting as it is, isnt that mysterious imo..

I think the they havent yet arrived at the Question mark. Perhaps thats next in the chain of events?

Why would the episode have been called "?" if that wasn't the question mark?

[R]

Originally Posted by Nickeshi,September 09, 2006 03:54 pm

Why would the episode have been called "?" if that wasn't the question mark?

Hmm, good point..

But then again, you know how these lost creators are..theyre never upfront are they..they often provide meaning and counter meanings. Considering that the question mark was the theme of the episode then perhaps thats enough to give it that title. Perhaps theres gonna be a '? II' in S3 or something, where they finally get so discover the actuall question mark hatch [if indeed it is a hatch, lol].

But maybe the pearl is the question mark..but then, whats so mysterious about it? Hmm..

[R]

Look at this map..the Pearl is presumed to be located on the right hand-side:

UV MAP

[Pynch]

oh thats right - I can't believe we've been talking about the ? and the Pearl all this time thinking they were the same hatch - they're not!

I can't believe I didn't work that one out!!

Perhaps you can't get to the Pearl overground - maybe its like the Blair Witch Project - if you set out to find it, you go around and around in circles and never get there...........

and incidentally 'there be dragons here' is inbetween the Pearl (on the right) and the Swan.... (unless thats referring to the Pearl too) have they walked through this?

[R]

Originally Posted by Pynch,September 09, 2006 05:03 pm

oh thats right - I can't believe we've been talking about the ? and the Pearl all this time thinking they were the same hatch - they're not!

I can't believe I didn't work that one out!!

Perhaps you can't get to the Pearl overground - maybe its like the Blair Witch Project - if you set out to find it, you go around and around in circles and never get there...........

and incidentally 'there be dragons here' is inbetween the Pearl (on the right) and the Swan.... (unless thats referring to the Pearl too) have they walked through this?

"there be dragons here" is interesting..i had originally thought that could be reference to the Black Smoke..or perhaps another version of the Black Smoke [would it be awesome if there were 2 security systems! ..one being Cerberus and the other bieng the Dragon].

But thats a good point Pynch..have they bypassed it [ whatever 'it' is]..or perhaps it's underground. Eko thought Locke's wavey line was a river..but i think it was part of the underground tunnel system ["subterranean conduit"]. Perhaps [as has been suggested before] this is how the security system commutes from place to place?

Or perhaps the 'dragon'; reference is something completely different?

*goes to find thinking cap*

[Nickeshi]

I'm sure it was a question mark http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l146/Nic...uestionMark.jpg


It's hylighted in the 2nd 1 if you can't see it.
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l146/Nic...rkhilighted.jpg

[R]

Originally Posted by Nickeshi,September 09, 2006 05:30 pm

I'm sure it was a question mark http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l146/Nic...uestionMark.jpg


It's hylighted in the 2nd 1 if you can't see it.
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l146/Nic...rkhilighted.jpg

Hmm, im not sure. Eitherway it looks as if the creators have intentionally made it inconclusive.

If anything though it looks more like an '8' than a question mark, imo. It surely cant be the question mark..i mean, would we discover that before any of the other hatches? It seems to me like the question mark is more important than the pearl, the flame or any of the others..

[the used]

i agree with kor, i was expected a HUGE ? in the centre of the island like on the map, and clearly the pearl is over to the right of the island. i think the ? should be the equivalent to when locke found the hatch in season 1, well i can always hope.

[E Pluribus Unum]

I think I can make something else out from that suposed '?' guys......

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